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	<title>Comments on: neweurasia Interviews Martha Brill Olcott</title>
	<link>http://www.neweurasia.net/2007/04/05/neweurasia-interviews-martha-brill-olcott/</link>
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		<title>By: Fergana Fever</title>
		<link>http://www.neweurasia.net/2007/04/05/neweurasia-interviews-martha-brill-olcott/#comment-36011</link>
		<dc:creator>Fergana Fever</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 May 2007 03:16:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SOAS Academic Shirin Akiner is Uzbekistan Regime Agent

Lecturer in Central Asian Studies at the School of Oriental and African Studies (SOAS), University of London, Dr Shirin Akiner has been condemned by human rights groups, liberty campaigners and Craig Murray (ex-UK Ambassador in Tashkent) as an apologist for brutal Uzbek dictator President Karimov. This short report on the Andijan massacre concludes with an interview with Dr Akiner in which she attempts to downplay and justify the horrific murders by Karimov's regime.

Watch the video and read the report and please complain to her boss!
http://www.craigmurray.co.uk/archives/2005/11/reputation_of_s_1.html

Channel 4 News Report on the Andijan massacre and a subsequent interview with Dr Shirin Akiner:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgUnTjNQ-44

Her boss:

Professor Paul Webley, Director and Principal of SOAS

Email Address: pw2@soas.ac.uk
Telephone: +44 207 898 4014
Fax: +44 207 898 4019</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SOAS Academic Shirin Akiner is Uzbekistan Regime Agent</p>
<p>Lecturer in Central Asian Studies at the School of Oriental and African Studies (SOAS), University of London, Dr Shirin Akiner has been condemned by human rights groups, liberty campaigners and Craig Murray (ex-UK Ambassador in Tashkent) as an apologist for brutal Uzbek dictator President Karimov. This short report on the Andijan massacre concludes with an interview with Dr Akiner in which she attempts to downplay and justify the horrific murders by Karimov&#8217;s regime.</p>
<p>Watch the video and read the report and please complain to her boss!<br />
<a href="http://www.craigmurray.co.uk/archives/2005/11/reputation_of_s_1.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.craigmurray.co.uk/archives/2005/11/reputation_of_s_1.html</a></p>
<p>Channel 4 News Report on the Andijan massacre and a subsequent interview with Dr Shirin Akiner:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgUnTjNQ-44" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgUnTjNQ-44</a></p>
<p>Her boss:</p>
<p>Professor Paul Webley, Director and Principal of SOAS</p>
<p>Email Address: <a href="mailto:pw2@soas.ac.uk">pw2@soas.ac.uk</a><br />
Telephone: +44 207 898 4014<br />
Fax: +44 207 898 4019</p>
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		<title>By: Ataman Rakin</title>
		<link>http://www.neweurasia.net/2007/04/05/neweurasia-interviews-martha-brill-olcott/#comment-34520</link>
		<dc:creator>Ataman Rakin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2007 15:11:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.neweurasia.net/2007/04/05/neweurasia-interviews-martha-brill-olcott/#comment-34520</guid>
		<description>What MBO wanted to do is, to show that radical Islamist currents do exist in Uzbekistan and the rest of Central Asia and have not merely been invented by the regimes. Well, we all know that radical fringe groups do exist in Uzbekistan and Central Asia. So what? 

The key question should not be if such currents exist, but what their actual organisational and military capacity is, and how much influence they have among the former Soviet Muslims. I think the latter is marginal and the the Islamist threat has not been invented but certainly grossly inflated and instrumenalised by the regimes and gullible Western analysts.

To make matters clear: there is no Central Asian GIA or Hamas.

I also think that the theory that the Akramiyya is an Uzbek SNB creation is bollocks, just like the group should not be dismissed as 'terrorist' because its members were prepared to use violence in Andijan. They had the full right to do so, sicne there is not other way to fight an utterly depraved regime that only understands the logics of violence and state terror.   

Another ineteresting think in teh paper is, that MBO quotes former IMU members who she interviewed, and who confirm that IMU guerrillas got paid/promised severel hundreds of US$/month to fight. One thing I ask myself is, how she got in contact with ex-IMU members in the first place. 

I know that in 2002, a number of IMU fighters returned to Uzbekistan and were amnestied if they rependted and confessed that they had been misled and brainwashed. It could be one of these blokes, or (suspected) IMU of HT members serving time in prison camps? If so, how credible is that as a source? Of course they will be intimidated and threatened in saying everything the regime wants them to say to media, researchers etc.

I do agree with MBO when she says that in practice, 'secular', for the Uzbek and other CAsian regimes, means 'atheism' and anti-religious in the way it was understood in the Soviet Union. IMO, it also means the active propagation and even imposing a depraved lifestyle (incl. massive alcoholism, drug abuse, ...) as an antidote for dissent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What MBO wanted to do is, to show that radical Islamist currents do exist in Uzbekistan and the rest of Central Asia and have not merely been invented by the regimes. Well, we all know that radical fringe groups do exist in Uzbekistan and Central Asia. So what? </p>
<p>The key question should not be if such currents exist, but what their actual organisational and military capacity is, and how much influence they have among the former Soviet Muslims. I think the latter is marginal and the the Islamist threat has not been invented but certainly grossly inflated and instrumenalised by the regimes and gullible Western analysts.</p>
<p>To make matters clear: there is no Central Asian GIA or Hamas.</p>
<p>I also think that the theory that the Akramiyya is an Uzbek SNB creation is bollocks, just like the group should not be dismissed as &#8216;terrorist&#8217; because its members were prepared to use violence in Andijan. They had the full right to do so, sicne there is not other way to fight an utterly depraved regime that only understands the logics of violence and state terror.   </p>
<p>Another ineteresting think in teh paper is, that MBO quotes former IMU members who she interviewed, and who confirm that IMU guerrillas got paid/promised severel hundreds of US$/month to fight. One thing I ask myself is, how she got in contact with ex-IMU members in the first place. </p>
<p>I know that in 2002, a number of IMU fighters returned to Uzbekistan and were amnestied if they rependted and confessed that they had been misled and brainwashed. It could be one of these blokes, or (suspected) IMU of HT members serving time in prison camps? If so, how credible is that as a source? Of course they will be intimidated and threatened in saying everything the regime wants them to say to media, researchers etc.</p>
<p>I do agree with MBO when she says that in practice, &#8217;secular&#8217;, for the Uzbek and other CAsian regimes, means &#8216;atheism&#8217; and anti-religious in the way it was understood in the Soviet Union. IMO, it also means the active propagation and even imposing a depraved lifestyle (incl. massive alcoholism, drug abuse, &#8230;) as an antidote for dissent.</p>
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		<title>By: dancing dervish</title>
		<link>http://www.neweurasia.net/2007/04/05/neweurasia-interviews-martha-brill-olcott/#comment-34095</link>
		<dc:creator>dancing dervish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2007 07:11:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.neweurasia.net/2007/04/05/neweurasia-interviews-martha-brill-olcott/#comment-34095</guid>
		<description>David, I agree.  She and Shirin Akiner, two of the so-called scholars of Central Asia have lost their credibility by turning themselves into mouth pieces of Karimov's brutal regime.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David, I agree.  She and Shirin Akiner, two of the so-called scholars of Central Asia have lost their credibility by turning themselves into mouth pieces of Karimov&#8217;s brutal regime.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://www.neweurasia.net/2007/04/05/neweurasia-interviews-martha-brill-olcott/#comment-33926</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2007 16:23:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.neweurasia.net/2007/04/05/neweurasia-interviews-martha-brill-olcott/#comment-33926</guid>
		<description>I assume most of our readers already realize this so I hesitate to even state it, but this blog does not promote any particular position and we are more than happy to provide an outlet for any number of diverse viewpoints. 

For instance, David, if you would like to send us a thoughtful, reasoned article in response to the interview with Dr. Olcott that amounts to something more than name calling, I would be happy to publish it as a guest post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I assume most of our readers already realize this so I hesitate to even state it, but this blog does not promote any particular position and we are more than happy to provide an outlet for any number of diverse viewpoints. </p>
<p>For instance, David, if you would like to send us a thoughtful, reasoned article in response to the interview with Dr. Olcott that amounts to something more than name calling, I would be happy to publish it as a guest post.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://www.neweurasia.net/2007/04/05/neweurasia-interviews-martha-brill-olcott/#comment-33690</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2007 00:35:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.neweurasia.net/2007/04/05/neweurasia-interviews-martha-brill-olcott/#comment-33690</guid>
		<description>Martha Brill Olcott has no credibility, she's not a serious scholar, as any real expert on Central Asia will attest, and what's more she's now a card-carrying member of the We-Love-Karimov club. Shame on this blog for promoting her despicable views.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Martha Brill Olcott has no credibility, she&#8217;s not a serious scholar, as any real expert on Central Asia will attest, and what&#8217;s more she&#8217;s now a card-carrying member of the We-Love-Karimov club. Shame on this blog for promoting her despicable views.</p>
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		<title>By: Central Asia &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Actions count: New gas cartels, old friends, etc</title>
		<link>http://www.neweurasia.net/2007/04/05/neweurasia-interviews-martha-brill-olcott/#comment-31976</link>
		<dc:creator>Central Asia &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Actions count: New gas cartels, old friends, etc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2007 17:01:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.neweurasia.net/2007/04/05/neweurasia-interviews-martha-brill-olcott/#comment-31976</guid>
		<description>[...] We could do as Martha Brill Olcott suggests, and give Kazakhstan the prestige it deserves, as one of the most rapidly developing states in Central Asia, critical to our interests, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] We could do as Martha Brill Olcott suggests, and give Kazakhstan the prestige it deserves, as one of the most rapidly developing states in Central Asia, critical to our interests, [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Siberian Light</title>
		<link>http://www.neweurasia.net/2007/04/05/neweurasia-interviews-martha-brill-olcott/#comment-31683</link>
		<dc:creator>Siberian Light</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2007 07:51:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.neweurasia.net/2007/04/05/neweurasia-interviews-martha-brill-olcott/#comment-31683</guid>
		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Neweurasia interviews Martha Brill Olcott...&lt;/strong&gt;

Neweurasia has published its second interview with Martha Brill Olcott - probably one of the best known Central Asia scholars in America today.
The interview is wide-ranging, and covers many of the major issues facing Central Asia today.  Watch out, i...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Neweurasia interviews Martha Brill Olcott&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Neweurasia has published its second interview with Martha Brill Olcott - probably one of the best known Central Asia scholars in America today.<br />
The interview is wide-ranging, and covers many of the major issues facing Central Asia today.  Watch out, i&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Global Voices Online &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Central Asia: Interview with a Scholar</title>
		<link>http://www.neweurasia.net/2007/04/05/neweurasia-interviews-martha-brill-olcott/#comment-31400</link>
		<dc:creator>Global Voices Online &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Central Asia: Interview with a Scholar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Apr 2007 20:08:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.neweurasia.net/2007/04/05/neweurasia-interviews-martha-brill-olcott/#comment-31400</guid>
		<description>[...] interviews well known American Central Asia scholar Martha Brill Olcott.    Nathan [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] interviews well known American Central Asia scholar Martha Brill Olcott.    Nathan [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: The Conjecturer &#187; News Brief, Gizmudgery Edition</title>
		<link>http://www.neweurasia.net/2007/04/05/neweurasia-interviews-martha-brill-olcott/#comment-31262</link>
		<dc:creator>The Conjecturer &#187; News Brief, Gizmudgery Edition</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Apr 2007 21:51:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.neweurasia.net/2007/04/05/neweurasia-interviews-martha-brill-olcott/#comment-31262</guid>
		<description>[...] things I&#8217;d like to dig into further, possibly for a future post: the neweurasia interview with Central Asia expert Martha Brill Olcott (who is always interesting), and a look at water [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] things I&#8217;d like to dig into further, possibly for a future post: the neweurasia interview with Central Asia expert Martha Brill Olcott (who is always interesting), and a look at water [&#8230;]</p>
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