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		<title>By: HK9</title>
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		<description>April 7,2006, from:
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The â€œTodayâ€? Newspaper (in Mongolian) reports that the protest continues on Sukhbaatar square, led by the Straight Reforms (Profound Reforms) civil group, as well as the Healthy Society civil movement, repectively led by S. Ganbaatar and O. Magnai.

There are approximately 25 people participating in the hunger strike which started yesterday. The first day of protests on Wednesday drew the biggest crowds to Peace Avenue on the south side of Sukhbaatar square, however now they are still residing on the north side of Sukhbaatar.

They are still calling for the resignation of the President and the disbanding of parliament. When the reporter from â€œTodayâ€? asked Ganbaatar if they would stop, he answered:  â€œThis struggle has no way to stop. We are doing this protest because we are waiting for the answer (response) to our requests. If they donâ€™t give us specific answers we will continue the hunger strike. We are not afraid.â€?
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NEWS ITEM, May 23,2006:
http://www.wtop.com/?nid=111&amp;pid=0&amp;sid=784672&amp;page=1

ULAN BATOR, Mongolia (AP) - Under the Gobi Desert lies a potential treasure. The gold and copper deposits at Oyu Tolgoi, or Turquoise Hill, are among the largest ever found and could give impoverished Mongolia its biggest boost since it abandoned communism 15 years ago _ if the Mongolians can figure out how to profit from it. For two years, an agreement between the government and the Canadian company that discovered the deposit in 2001 has been held hostage by a boisterous debate over how to share the wealth in a country suffering from widespread poverty and corruption. The delay has been aggravated by weeks of protests in which opponents set up tent camps, staged a brief hunger strike and burned effigies of Mongolia&#039;s president and the chairman of Ivanhoe Mines Ltd.

The government brokered a deal on April 23 to include civic groups in an investigation into Mongolia&#039;s dealings with Ivanhoe, though some groups vowed to carry on protesting. &quot;We are not actually against Ivanhoe Mines; we are against the government&#039;s handling of the negotiations,&quot; said S. Ganbaatar, an environmental activist with Radical Reform, a civic movement. &quot;Maybe Ivanhoe is the best choice. Maybe Ivanhoe is the worst choice. We just don&#039;t know.&quot; Oyu Tolgoi (Omnogobi aimag, Khanbogd soum), some 400 miles southwest of Ulan Bator near the Chinese border, embodies the dilemma facing the proud descendants of Genghis Khan: how to secure an adequate share of the country&#039;s mineral wealth without scaring off foreign mining investors.

The opposition accuses the government of giving away Mongolia&#039;s wealth and wants the 1997 Minerals Law amended to change some terms favorable to foreign investors and require a large government stake in any foreign mine.

Foreign mining companies say that without the incentives they now enjoy they would not risk such ventures. &quot;We incur a vast capital investment to build the mine. The mine will bring a huge benefit to the Mongolian people, who can either get the project running and reap its benefits or not,&quot; said Roger Walsh, an Ivanhoe vice president and spokesman.

Getting the formula right is crucial for the landlocked country of 2.8 million people. Next door looms China, the economic powerhouse whose low-cost manufacturers have already pushed Mongolians out of the cashmere industry, once a major export earner. Some fear they could do the same with metals-processing.

There have been no accusations that Ivanhoe, which owns 100 percent of the mining concession for Oyu Tolgoi, has acted improperly. &quot;The question is whether the Mongolians are going to get enough out of the project,&quot; says Morris Rossabi, an expert on Mongolia at Columbia University. The fear is that foreign mining companies are &quot;trying to get deals that would involve paying almost no taxes,&quot; he said. &quot;We don&#039;t disagree with raising these issues,&quot; said Walsh, but added, &quot;We&#039;re a little bit frustrated. We would like things to move forward.&quot; Ivanhoe estimates the net present worth of Oyu Tolgoi&#039;s deposits to be $3.44 billion in today&#039;s dollars and says it will make direct payments to Mongolia over the initial 35-year life of the project of approximately $4.5 billion in corporate taxes, royalties and other taxes and fees. It says the project will create tens of thousands of direct and indirect jobs and cites studies saying it could boost the country&#039;s gross domestic product by more than a third.

To remind Mongolians what&#039;s at stake, Ivanhoe has placed statements about the economic benefits in their newspapers. Ivanhoe&#039;s discovery is well timed: Demand for the copper used in cars, cell phones and other products has pushed prices to record highs of around $3 a pound. This wealth is bringing buds of prosperity to Ulan Bator: construction cranes; a Nissan showroom; billboards advertising Dior, Samsonite and Revlon &quot;For Famously Full-On Eyelashes.&quot; But 40 percent of Mongolians live in poverty. About half of the capital&#039;s 1 million people live without sewage lines and piped water. Schools and hospitals are crumbling, and the country depends on food aid for nearly 80 percent of its wheat. Its biggest taxpayer, the Erdenet copper mine, has already passed its production peak and will likely last for only 20 years more.

Ivanhoe estimates that over its lifetime, the mines at Oyu Tolgoi are expected to yield more than 35 million tons of copper and 11 million ounces of gold. In the haggling with Ivanhoe, the government is trying to set taxes, water and land use and other conditions while protecting Ivanhoe&#039;s investment from future changes in local laws that might affect revenues.

Everyone wants maximum profits, &quot;but the best way to solve the problem fairly for all people has not yet been established,&quot; Industry and Trade Minister B. Jargalsaikhan, the government&#039;s lead negotiator with Ivanhoe, said in comments published in the Ulan Bator Post newspaper. Jargalsaikhan promised on national television that the parliament will debate the deal as well as amendments to the Minerals Law, which currently allows 100 percent foreign ownership of mines, licenses for 100 years and 100 percent repatriation of earnings. But both he and the government&#039;s critics concede the importance of dealing with Ivanhoe, which says it has already spent $300 million of $1.2 billion budgeted for the project&#039;s first phase. &quot;Mining is big risk,&quot; said N. Dorjdari, an economist with the Forum, a non-governmental group. &quot;It&#039;s capital intensive, so we have tried to attract (foreign) companies.&quot;
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We should feel a sense of support for the Mongolian people across the Chaghatai Khanate from the Turanic peoples and Islam in support with them in their struggles with the empire of the Australians, Canadians, jews throughout the world, United States Russia and England, hotly intent to drain the so-called average working-class citizen of Mongolia of the resources and of all the potential &quot;profit-to-be-made&quot; from out of their land.  These are the same band of illusion waving thieves and plunderers who banded togeather to had fought a war to knock Adolf Hitler off his horse.  And they ride on, throughout the world, to do evil and rob the world to this day; the empire of the dictator Winston Churchill and Queen Elizabeth Rex.

They want to take al the minerals of Omnogobi aimag, Khanbogd soum in Mongolia back with them to their bank accounts in America and Europe, leaving behind a country where 40 percent of the people live in poverty.  (And then they shall return, generously, giving &#039;aid.&#039;) Muslims and Turanic peoples have to find solutions within before going out to the empiire of the Whore of Babylon Barbara Pierce Bush who is mentioned in the Christian Book of Revelations. Outside of Russia and the Russians. Outside of the international jew, who ere the sworn enemies of Adolf Hitler. Outside of the United States of America. And refrain from contacts with the realm that encompasses all of their &#039;allies.&#039;  America Russia and the English and the jew are our enmies, enemies of all the world but of their own wealth; same as they were Hitler&#039;s.

YA MAHDI MADAD

The jews of the world want to dig up and destroy Temujin Genghis Khan&#039;s burial site as well now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>April 7,2006, from:<br />
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<p>The â€œTodayâ€? Newspaper (in Mongolian) reports that the protest continues on Sukhbaatar square, led by the Straight Reforms (Profound Reforms) civil group, as well as the Healthy Society civil movement, repectively led by S. Ganbaatar and O. Magnai.</p>
<p>There are approximately 25 people participating in the hunger strike which started yesterday. The first day of protests on Wednesday drew the biggest crowds to Peace Avenue on the south side of Sukhbaatar square, however now they are still residing on the north side of Sukhbaatar.</p>
<p>They are still calling for the resignation of the President and the disbanding of parliament. When the reporter from â€œTodayâ€? asked Ganbaatar if they would stop, he answered:  â€œThis struggle has no way to stop. We are doing this protest because we are waiting for the answer (response) to our requests. If they donâ€™t give us specific answers we will continue the hunger strike. We are not afraid.â€?<br />
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<p>NEWS ITEM, May 23,2006:<br />
<a href="http://www.wtop.com/?nid=111&#038;pid=0&#038;sid=784672&#038;page=1" rel="nofollow">http://www.wtop.com/?nid=111&#038;pid=0&#038;sid=784672&#038;page=1</a></p>
<p>ULAN BATOR, Mongolia (AP) &#8211; Under the Gobi Desert lies a potential treasure. The gold and copper deposits at Oyu Tolgoi, or Turquoise Hill, are among the largest ever found and could give impoverished Mongolia its biggest boost since it abandoned communism 15 years ago _ if the Mongolians can figure out how to profit from it. For two years, an agreement between the government and the Canadian company that discovered the deposit in 2001 has been held hostage by a boisterous debate over how to share the wealth in a country suffering from widespread poverty and corruption. The delay has been aggravated by weeks of protests in which opponents set up tent camps, staged a brief hunger strike and burned effigies of Mongolia&#8217;s president and the chairman of Ivanhoe Mines Ltd.</p>
<p>The government brokered a deal on April 23 to include civic groups in an investigation into Mongolia&#8217;s dealings with Ivanhoe, though some groups vowed to carry on protesting. &#8220;We are not actually against Ivanhoe Mines; we are against the government&#8217;s handling of the negotiations,&#8221; said S. Ganbaatar, an environmental activist with Radical Reform, a civic movement. &#8220;Maybe Ivanhoe is the best choice. Maybe Ivanhoe is the worst choice. We just don&#8217;t know.&#8221; Oyu Tolgoi (Omnogobi aimag, Khanbogd soum), some 400 miles southwest of Ulan Bator near the Chinese border, embodies the dilemma facing the proud descendants of Genghis Khan: how to secure an adequate share of the country&#8217;s mineral wealth without scaring off foreign mining investors.</p>
<p>The opposition accuses the government of giving away Mongolia&#8217;s wealth and wants the 1997 Minerals Law amended to change some terms favorable to foreign investors and require a large government stake in any foreign mine.</p>
<p>Foreign mining companies say that without the incentives they now enjoy they would not risk such ventures. &#8220;We incur a vast capital investment to build the mine. The mine will bring a huge benefit to the Mongolian people, who can either get the project running and reap its benefits or not,&#8221; said Roger Walsh, an Ivanhoe vice president and spokesman.</p>
<p>Getting the formula right is crucial for the landlocked country of 2.8 million people. Next door looms China, the economic powerhouse whose low-cost manufacturers have already pushed Mongolians out of the cashmere industry, once a major export earner. Some fear they could do the same with metals-processing.</p>
<p>There have been no accusations that Ivanhoe, which owns 100 percent of the mining concession for Oyu Tolgoi, has acted improperly. &#8220;The question is whether the Mongolians are going to get enough out of the project,&#8221; says Morris Rossabi, an expert on Mongolia at Columbia University. The fear is that foreign mining companies are &#8220;trying to get deals that would involve paying almost no taxes,&#8221; he said. &#8220;We don&#8217;t disagree with raising these issues,&#8221; said Walsh, but added, &#8220;We&#8217;re a little bit frustrated. We would like things to move forward.&#8221; Ivanhoe estimates the net present worth of Oyu Tolgoi&#8217;s deposits to be $3.44 billion in today&#8217;s dollars and says it will make direct payments to Mongolia over the initial 35-year life of the project of approximately $4.5 billion in corporate taxes, royalties and other taxes and fees. It says the project will create tens of thousands of direct and indirect jobs and cites studies saying it could boost the country&#8217;s gross domestic product by more than a third.</p>
<p>To remind Mongolians what&#8217;s at stake, Ivanhoe has placed statements about the economic benefits in their newspapers. Ivanhoe&#8217;s discovery is well timed: Demand for the copper used in cars, cell phones and other products has pushed prices to record highs of around $3 a pound. This wealth is bringing buds of prosperity to Ulan Bator: construction cranes; a Nissan showroom; billboards advertising Dior, Samsonite and Revlon &#8220;For Famously Full-On Eyelashes.&#8221; But 40 percent of Mongolians live in poverty. About half of the capital&#8217;s 1 million people live without sewage lines and piped water. Schools and hospitals are crumbling, and the country depends on food aid for nearly 80 percent of its wheat. Its biggest taxpayer, the Erdenet copper mine, has already passed its production peak and will likely last for only 20 years more.</p>
<p>Ivanhoe estimates that over its lifetime, the mines at Oyu Tolgoi are expected to yield more than 35 million tons of copper and 11 million ounces of gold. In the haggling with Ivanhoe, the government is trying to set taxes, water and land use and other conditions while protecting Ivanhoe&#8217;s investment from future changes in local laws that might affect revenues.</p>
<p>Everyone wants maximum profits, &#8220;but the best way to solve the problem fairly for all people has not yet been established,&#8221; Industry and Trade Minister B. Jargalsaikhan, the government&#8217;s lead negotiator with Ivanhoe, said in comments published in the Ulan Bator Post newspaper. Jargalsaikhan promised on national television that the parliament will debate the deal as well as amendments to the Minerals Law, which currently allows 100 percent foreign ownership of mines, licenses for 100 years and 100 percent repatriation of earnings. But both he and the government&#8217;s critics concede the importance of dealing with Ivanhoe, which says it has already spent $300 million of $1.2 billion budgeted for the project&#8217;s first phase. &#8220;Mining is big risk,&#8221; said N. Dorjdari, an economist with the Forum, a non-governmental group. &#8220;It&#8217;s capital intensive, so we have tried to attract (foreign) companies.&#8221;<br />
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<p>We should feel a sense of support for the Mongolian people across the Chaghatai Khanate from the Turanic peoples and Islam in support with them in their struggles with the empire of the Australians, Canadians, jews throughout the world, United States Russia and England, hotly intent to drain the so-called average working-class citizen of Mongolia of the resources and of all the potential &#8220;profit-to-be-made&#8221; from out of their land.  These are the same band of illusion waving thieves and plunderers who banded togeather to had fought a war to knock Adolf Hitler off his horse.  And they ride on, throughout the world, to do evil and rob the world to this day; the empire of the dictator Winston Churchill and Queen Elizabeth Rex.</p>
<p>They want to take al the minerals of Omnogobi aimag, Khanbogd soum in Mongolia back with them to their bank accounts in America and Europe, leaving behind a country where 40 percent of the people live in poverty.  (And then they shall return, generously, giving &#8216;aid.&#8217;) Muslims and Turanic peoples have to find solutions within before going out to the empiire of the Whore of Babylon Barbara Pierce Bush who is mentioned in the Christian Book of Revelations. Outside of Russia and the Russians. Outside of the international jew, who ere the sworn enemies of Adolf Hitler. Outside of the United States of America. And refrain from contacts with the realm that encompasses all of their &#8216;allies.&#8217;  America Russia and the English and the jew are our enmies, enemies of all the world but of their own wealth; same as they were Hitler&#8217;s.</p>
<p>YA MAHDI MADAD</p>
<p>The jews of the world want to dig up and destroy Temujin Genghis Khan&#8217;s burial site as well now.</p>
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		<description>Olesya, This made me smile. Thank you for posting it!</description>
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		<description>According to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.vz.ru/society/2006/4/10/29476.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Vzglyad&lt;/a&gt; this annual rating is compiled by MGIMO experts and graduates in consultation with Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs.</description>
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